Since Angus Wall and Mr. Fincher collaborated quite often, that makes rockpaperscissors.com a regular bookmark for every Fincher fanatic. Kevin now thankfully gave me a heads-up on some of the really cool stuff that has recently been added to the collection: "[There] is a bunch of stuff on Ben button. If you go to editors, then to Angus Wall and hit the "news" link, then there are links to several articles about working with Fincher on editing, photography, make-up, production design, costuming etc. Also, in "color" there are good quality versions of some of Fincher's recent commercials, "Fate", "Hallway", and "Wind". In Kirk Baxters section in the commercial link there is a small TV spot for Button "some things last"."
The selection is interesting and informative, and answers the most technical details as well as discuss the artistic challenges of the film. Links include articles from EditorsGuild.com, InContention.com, Shoot Magazine, Variety, and Creativity-Online.com.
Thanks for the link, Kevin!
Go there now:
RockPaperScissors.com
I've known that site already. They have one bad site design for a company dealing with a visual communication medium.
ReplyDeleteThank you Kevin. From the bottom of my heart. *cough* *cough*
ReplyDeletethe ad for the iphone is a little different than what i remember from the youtube version.
ReplyDeletethe takes from the security booth, the little whistle in the elevator, all the soundtrack (it was a "hip" music before) and the final shot from the apple store.
does anyone who researches ads have further info on this? is it a director's cut or just a different version for different medias?
last but not least, thanks kevin. although i'm familiar with the site, it was a while since my last visit, and it's great to see fincher's work in higher video quality.
No problem Thiago.
ReplyDeleteYou are right about the apple ad. The version or RPS is very different from the original that aired here in the states. Not sure if it is in fact a director's cut or if it was just something Fincher and Angus Wall were fucking around with.
Thanks for the info. Added them all to the collection ;)
ReplyDeleteSorry about the typo. I meant to say "The version on RPS is very different.... "
ReplyDeleteI wouldn't say they fucked around with it. Each frame costs thousands, and Fincher is not the guy who says "let's just try this for fuck's sake".
ReplyDeleteThe ad agency which commissioned the spot for Apple had the last word, as is usually the case in the advertising industry. Directors execute their storyboards, which is often in place before directors even get on board. In this case, they probably wanted a shorter ad that fit into more time slots in commercial break windows on tv, which costs less in terms of buying slots and results in more frequent airing, thus increasing the effect of the ad, which is to sell a product (d'uh).
ReplyDeleteBut I guess most people who visit this blog prefer believing that the commercial is entirely Fincher's vision, and not an executed storyboard from an ad agency. Gotta keep on dreaming and holding up the myths of filmmaking, right? Cause it's so magical, it's a wonderland! And Fincher of course is a wizard who snorts commercials like these out of his nose in the morning before breakfast.
@ Anonymous
ReplyDeleteI agree with you but only to a certain point. If it was only about taking the soryboards and turning them into film or commercial then Apple should hire me or you... it just sounds so simple. But quess what they hire Fincher or some other "Big Name" director. Why? Because it's cheaper that way? I think not. Maybe they hire them because they have what it takes to make those storyboards something more. I would call it a magic touch! :)
You're right mikez. The storyboard needs to come to life through the director. But it's just ignorant and naive to credit the whole work of film/commercial to one man, when there are up to 50 people working behind a commercial, or up to 200 behind a film.
ReplyDeleteSeriously though, Fincher is a great director. But I think overidealising him doesn't do anyone any good.
ReplyDeleteBtw, I'm looking forward to Gore Verbinski's adaptation of the game BioShock. What do you think about game adaptations in films, and games in general? The game industry creates more revenue now than Hollywood, porn industry included.
Anon,
ReplyDeleteYou are one cynical chap. You must be a real hoot to hang around.
Anonymous quote:
ReplyDelete"But it's just ignorant and naive to credit the whole work of film/commercial to one man, when there are up to 50 people working behind a commercial, or up to 200 behind a film."
100% right.
Film is a collaborative effort involving different people. Someone has to take all this great talent and turn it into one solid vision.
This blog is dedicated to Fincher so we focus on him but I assure you no one here is neglecting the work of other people involved in his works. If you notice this discussion is taking place in a post about the works of Angus Wall and Kirk Baxter ;)
Anonymous quote:
"Seriously though, Fincher is a great director. But I think overidealising him doesn't do anyone any good."
I try my best not to do it :)
"What do you think about game adaptations in films, and games in general?"
It's a hard job to make a good game adaptation. One reason might be that games are more and more "film-like". I think that "Game Adaptation Industry", like "Comic Book Industry" before them, is still waiting for their own Zack Snyder or Chris Nolan.
I'd like to see a good "Dead Space" adaptation :)
Oh man, I hate Tony Scott, that leather-skin-wrinkled old man who essentially makes 2 hour music videos, exerting the same style over and over. If it wasn't for his brother he wouldn't be doing that in the first place.
ReplyDeleteJust watched his subway movie trailer and needed to vent.
And while we're at it: everyone who watches Vin Diesel vehicles (the younger Stallone) like Fast & Furious should be slapped. Twice. And then kicked in the nuts.
ReplyDeleteAnonymous 6:41,
ReplyDeleteLOL.