This one is a brilliant, brilliant beast, all the way up to its last line. Fanboy speaking no doubt, but come on — this looks amazing! Hurry up, October!
No Problem :) - Yes these are great shots Fincher + Cronenweth, a great combo. I love the lighting and compositions in Fincher's Movies. Its so unique. When you switch the TV Channels and you see one of his movies by accident, just one shot is enough and you know its a Fincher film. Its such a distinctive Style. But his Storytelling ability and attention to detail is equally great. Also what great Performances he gets out of the Actors. Many Critics and Fans underestimate this. And the editing work is just breathtaking. His Movies have a really specific pace. It reminds me of Stanley Kubrick's Films. You cannot switch of his Movies. You must watch then to the end. Even if you have watched then 20 Times *--*
About the editing, it must be noted that Fincher's longtime editor, the great Angus Wall, is not credited as co-editor of this movie in the IMDB, apparently, because he is about to direct his first movie.
Kirk Baxter is editing alone, as he did with the Fincher directed two first episodes of "House of Cards".
Thanks Daryl, i read that. IMDb is not the most reliably source ;) Ren Klyce will do the Sounddesign *-* Its also imaginable that Tyler Nelson the assistant editor will be working as the co-editor. I cant imagine that Baxter will cut the Film alone.
Adding to the list of surprising people who are not working on Gone Girl: Bob Wagner. I was really surprised to see he wasn't going to be 1st AD on this (according to IMDB).
indeed, really surprising. Bob Wagner is one of the Fincher Veterans. i have nothing against IMDB, greatest movie site on the Planet. We have to wait and see, until the release. Then we get a complete & confirmed cast & crew list.
If Baxter is cutting the Film alone etc. imagine the amount of Footage :O even with 2-3 assistant editors, that is a enormous task to handle. For this Reason alone he should get a third Oscar *--*
Premiere is a great editing software. Very similar to the old Final Cut 7. Apple fu**ed it up with FCX. Many editors switched to Premiere & Avid Media Composer. The switch from FC7 to Premiere is a really smooth. You get very quick used to it. With Avid you need more Time, its a completely different. The Devil is in the Detail.
For example, Walter Murch explained in great detail what he didn't like about the new FCX.
Different Strokes for different Folks, i guess. I am used too Adobe Premiere since CS3. And with each new Version, they improved a lot of things.
But i miss a feature like AMA (Avid Media Access), with this you can link any QuickTime or H.64 Video. Its not a real import, just a link to the raw footage and you can cut right away, its amazing.
But the Mercury Playback Engine in Premiere is amazing. No need for Rendering. Many but not all Effects are CPU accelerated.
But you right Mikez, the biggest Advantage is the Integration between all the other Adobe Software (Premiere, AfterFx, Photoshop, Audition) via the Dynamic Link Manager *--*
I know that, in FCX there is also no rendering needed. I would try the Program but i don't have a Mac.
The Point is, there is no superior editing Program. They all have different strength & weaknesses.
I've watched it like 100 times already :P I'm mesmerized by the sound of Amy's voice-over. It's just haunting. Can't wait to hear it in the dark cinema...
Maybe there's different type of music based on whether something is Amy's diary entry or taking place in real life. I wouldn't be surprised if Fincher tries to manipulate the audiences perspective of events using music as well.
-- David Fincher: Upcoming book examines conversations with the renowned filmmaker --
Donald Shanahan Chicago Film Examiner
http://tinyurl.com/pyhfeld
"Dr. Laurence Knapp, an editor from University Press of Mississippi, has compiled and created the newest book in the "Conversations with Filmmakers" series. Knapp recently sat down with the Fincher Fanatic blog to discuss the upcoming book, You can check out that interview here"
Chuck Palahniuk (Fight Club, Choke, Haunted), director David Fincher (Fight Club, Seven, The Social Network, and Gone Girl), Gerald Howard (Doubleday executive editor), and special guests discuss the seminal novel's journey from book to film and beyond. Moderated by Rick Kleffel (TheAgonyColumn.com).
You should totally do a shot by shot breakdown of the trailer! might be a bit much, but would be very worth it.
ReplyDeleteVery cool Phil. Thanks! I love the cinematography in these scenes.
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No Problem :) - Yes these are great shots
DeleteFincher + Cronenweth, a great combo. I love the lighting and compositions in Fincher's Movies. Its so unique. When you switch the TV Channels and you see one of his movies by accident, just one shot is enough and you know its a Fincher film. Its such a distinctive Style. But his Storytelling ability and attention to detail is equally great. Also what great Performances he gets out of the Actors. Many Critics and Fans underestimate this. And the editing work is just breathtaking. His Movies have a really specific pace. It reminds me of Stanley Kubrick's Films. You cannot switch of his Movies. You must watch then to the end. Even if you have watched then 20 Times *--*
About the editing, it must be noted that Fincher's longtime editor, the great Angus Wall, is not credited as co-editor of this movie in the IMDB, apparently, because he is about to direct his first movie.
DeleteKirk Baxter is editing alone, as he did with the Fincher directed two first episodes of "House of Cards".
Gone Girl IMDb site also doesn't list Ren Klyce.
DeleteThanks Daryl, i read that. IMDb is not the most reliably source ;) Ren Klyce will do the Sounddesign *-* Its also imaginable that Tyler Nelson the assistant editor will be working as the co-editor. I cant imagine that Baxter will cut the Film alone.
DeleteThanks for the shots, Phil. This is amazing!
DeleteNo Problem. My Pleasure *-*
DeleteThanks Phil for that list of shots. It's perfect!
DeleteAdding to the list of surprising people who are not working on Gone Girl: Bob Wagner. I was really surprised to see he wasn't going to be 1st AD on this (according to IMDB).
thanks for the info :)
Deleteindeed, really surprising. Bob Wagner is one of the Fincher Veterans. i have nothing against IMDB, greatest movie site on the Planet. We have to wait and see, until the release. Then we get a complete & confirmed cast & crew list.
If Baxter is cutting the Film alone etc. imagine the amount of Footage :O even with 2-3 assistant editors, that is a enormous task to handle. For this Reason alone he should get a third Oscar *--*
Thanks mikez :)
DeleteOh and remember to send Freddy Krueger a "thank you" card. Se7en would not have been made, if it wasn't for him ;)
Deletehttp://youtu.be/Yt5ruPkc6Ck
The short bit about Se7en starts at 14:25, but the whole thing is worth watching.
Great links mikez.
DeleteAs for IMDB, of course, It must be used with caution and its facts double-checked, specially when the list is provisional.
Regarding Baxter on Gone Girl:
--- Creative Cloud Updates on Tap As David Fincher Adopts Premiere Pro---
Editor Kirk Baxter Is Cutting Fincher's Gone Girl Exclusively on Adobe's NLE
http://www.studiodaily.com/2014/04/creative-cloud-updates-on-tap-as-david-fincher-adopts-premiere-pro/
Thanks Daryl :) -
DeletePremiere is a great editing software. Very similar to the old Final Cut 7. Apple fu**ed it up with FCX. Many editors switched to Premiere & Avid Media Composer. The switch from FC7 to Premiere is a really smooth. You get very quick used to it. With Avid you need more Time, its a completely different. The Devil is in the Detail.
For example, Walter Murch explained in great detail what he didn't like about the new FCX.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7PnBgaUKNE
Thank you very much Phil!
DeleteI kinda Heard about the FCX debacle but as the layman I am, I didn't know the details.
That's what I love the most about seriously following the work of Fincher, that you get to learn about every aspect of filmaking.
From him or his other followers. :)
Thanks to daryl & mikez :)
DeleteDifferent Strokes for different Folks, i guess.
I am used too Adobe Premiere since CS3. And with each new Version, they improved a lot of things.
But i miss a feature like AMA (Avid Media Access), with this you can link any QuickTime or H.64 Video. Its not a real import, just a link to the raw footage and you can cut right away, its amazing.
But the Mercury Playback Engine in Premiere is amazing. No need for Rendering. Many but not all Effects are CPU accelerated.
But you right Mikez, the biggest Advantage is the Integration between all the other Adobe Software (Premiere, AfterFx, Photoshop, Audition) via the Dynamic Link Manager *--*
I know that, in FCX there is also no rendering needed. I would try the Program but i don't have a Mac.
The Point is, there is no superior editing Program. They all have different strength & weaknesses.
After the day (relatively) exclusive to trailers.apple.com, the definitive oficial trailer link at 20th Century FOX YouTube Channel:
ReplyDeletehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-_-1nJf8Vg
I've watched it like 100 times already :P I'm mesmerized by the sound of Amy's voice-over. It's just haunting. Can't wait to hear it in the dark cinema...
Deletea Glimpse of Trent Reznor working on Gone Girl *--*
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Holy shit! An orchestra?
DeleteThat's new for Reznor...
that could be interesting - maybe a mix between electronic & classical orchestra score
DeleteMaybe there's different type of music based on whether something is Amy's diary entry or taking place in real life. I wouldn't be surprised if Fincher tries to manipulate the audiences perspective of events using music as well.
ReplyDeleteGeez, watch those spoilers!
DeleteI meant Amy's diary entries are in the past whereas the search is in present day real life. You can read whatever you want in to it.
Deletefincherfanatic.com is in the news!
ReplyDelete-- David Fincher: Upcoming book examines conversations with the renowned filmmaker --
Donald Shanahan
Chicago Film Examiner
http://tinyurl.com/pyhfeld
"Dr. Laurence Knapp, an editor from University Press of Mississippi, has compiled and created the newest book in the "Conversations with Filmmakers" series. Knapp recently sat down with the Fincher Fanatic blog to discuss the upcoming book, You can check out that interview here"
Fincher at Comic Con 2014, Saturday, July 26:
ReplyDelete"Fight Club: From Page to Screen and Beyond"
Chuck Palahniuk (Fight Club, Choke, Haunted), director David Fincher (Fight Club, Seven, The Social Network, and Gone Girl), Gerald Howard (Doubleday executive editor), and special guests discuss the seminal novel's journey from book to film and beyond. Moderated by Rick Kleffel (TheAgonyColumn.com).
7:00 - 8:00
Room 25ABC
http://www.comic-con.org/cci/saturday